they learned very well.
We do not have a machine yet that says, ‘what should I learn, what should I tell myself to go learn, what are the important things to go do.’ And the ethical fear is just a little bit of that those machines will want the things we [humans] want. For example, people with money may want a political system where money rules and a machine run system may want something where machines get built and could care less about clean air and things.
DN: Are there any medical device designs or advancements that have piqued your interest in recent years?
Wozniak: Almost everyone piques my interest. These little devices are doing tasks that were really only done by a doctor [until recently] and we thought that only a doctor had the mind to help us out. Yes, you can have a wearable that measures your temperature or your pulse rate. Those are kind of minor compared to diagnosing diseases, which is what we are really interested in.
The devices that can use nanotechnology — slide it into your mouth and from that it can discern what molecules are there and which viruses and bacteria might be in your body — that’s an intriguing concept because it’s very simple in its definition. When you visualize it, it’s something you yourself as a person can use.
And what if it winds up being able to diagnose things and detect a lot of things better than doctors do. It’s kind of like self-driving cars. Are they going to put non-self-driving cars out of business, just because they do the job of safety better?
DN: The Apple I and Apple II were tremendous creations in themselves, but is there anything that you wish you had had the idea for first that’s already out there? Is there an electronic or design that you wish you had thought of first?
Wozniak: I don’t like to go back and think in ways that would give you grief over having not done something. It’s just not part of my makeup, my philosophies in life. Basically, with things like the Apple II, my focus is always on things that make life better for people.
I can think of things along the way – the Internet, smartphone creation – a lot of steps along the way that were so important and I could say, ‘oh man, I wish I had had a role in that,’ but I had my role. My role was still, always try to make things a little nicer for people, the way humans would want them. If you think about your apps, that’s sort of what they